What I Read Online – 05/04/2012 (a.m.)

04 May
    • The other important difference, it seems to this complementarian, is that complementarians care about the path that gets you to your position on the practical question (what women can and can’t do) at least as much as the position on the practical question
    • It’s not unusual to find complementarians who acknowledge that Scripture’s message on gender roles cuts against the grain of their culturally-formed instincts. The Bible contradicts their instincts and so they’re conscious of just how much they have to submit to Scripture to take up this view and then keep remaining within it. They find it hard work, and something that needs to be constantly renewed by a willingness to trust that God knows better than their instincts.
    • For many, if not most, complementarians this question is, first and foremost, a question of one’s doctrine of, and submission to, Scripture. Show most complementarians a hypothetical person who holds that women shouldn’t teach men or have authority over them in church or that wives should submit to husbands, but who seems to have gotten that view from somewhere other than the Bible (or who thought that Paul taught egalitarianism, but that he got it wrong, and complementarianism is right, or that Paul’s words were egalitarian for the original readers on exegetical grounds but are complementarian in implication for us today on hermeneutical grounds) then that hypothetical person would not, I suggest, be recognized as a complementarian by most people in that ‘camp’.
    • it’s those exegetical and hermeneutical steps, and not the final conclusions, that are what really defines complementarianism.
    • It can be a bit wearying be a complementarian—you have to defend your credentials to your ‘friends’ as well as your ‘enemies’.
    • However, complementarianism’s theological pickiness produces a level of theological clarity and robustness that often gives it staying power beyond that of egalitarianism. Egalitarians, as a whole, are fuzzy compared to complementarians. Complementarianism’s willingness to turn its guns on itself expresses a commitment to truth, and the importance of theological details, that gives complementarianism a sense of backbone and strength.
    • Complementarianism will always sweat the details more. Egalitarianism will always be nicer. But complementarians can narrow the “niceness gap”, which will help those who put a premium on niceness (which is most people) to not tune out to attempts to argue the issues at stake.
    • That’s part of the glory of complementarianism; like Protestantism generally, the search for the One True Complementarian Position is never-ending as each generation opens Scripture, looks at the world around them, and seeks to submit to what they read in the Bible within the situation they find themselves. But we can temper our language that we use on each other.
    • We can marry a concern for truth, and the details of truth, with generosity towards those with whom we disagree. And the generosity, and the tone, should roughly match the degree of the divergence. We should be much, much nicer in disagreements with other complementarians (even those complementarians, I would suggest, that we don’t consider ‘real complementarians’) than with egalitarians.
    • We need to work hard at being clear about where we stand on debates within complementarianism and why. And we need to be as generous as our consciences will allow in dealing with other non-egalitarians who disagree with us on some of these questions that we really care about. Clarity and generosity in addressing ‘in house’ debates is going to be important in the next stage of this debate.
    • Who and what does God call a pastor to be?  What role does a pastor play in the life of a church and individual believers?  Join with us as we explore the Bible’s teaching on these and other questions related to pastoral ministry in the church. 




      What: Pastors Conference


      When: Friday 15th June from 9am to 4:30pm 


      Where: City Presbyterian Church, 283 Karangahape Road, Auckland


      Who: Pastors, Elders, Church Leaders, Ministry Students and Candidates.


      Cost: $40 ($20 for Ministry Students) Attendees can register and pay the day of the conference.  Email for details on paying online in advance. 

    • 1.  ”I take it that one of its main operations consists in instructing a man that he may know the truth of God (p. 10).


    • 2.  “Secondly, to win a soul, it is necessary, not only to instruct our hearer, and make him know the truth, but to impress him so that he may feel it (p. 13).


    • 3.  “Of all whom we would fain win for Jesus it is true, ‘Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.’  The Holy Ghost must work regeneration int he objects of our love, or they never can become possessors of eternal happiness” (p. 16).


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